Veritasium

Game theory question: who do you think will win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScpH...

vor 2 Monaten | [YT] | 7,332



@Palcious

A person that steals wins in a community of people who don't. A community that shares wins over a community of thieves.

vor 2 Monaten (editiert) | 4,100

@gooseloose682

short term? Stealing, definitely. Long term? Sharing. We have enough to give everyone what they need, greed and selfishness is what brings us down

vor 2 Monaten | 1,300

@tomisinosasona

The paradoxical nature of these opposing ideologies… In an Altruistic society, the Egoist thrives. In an Egoistic society, the Altruist thrives. In an Altruistic society, where everyone is kind, considering and Forgiving, An Egoist, a person who only thinks of themselves and would readily hurt others for their own benefits, would have a field day hurting and manipulating people only to get forgiven and excused for their behaviors leaving them to do it all again endlessly. In an Egoistic society, where everyone would happily backstab their fellow human beings for a piece of bread, the Altruist is invaluable as someone who you can trust and rely on because you know that their actions and words are taken or spoken wholly for your benefit without a sense of malice or ulterior motives in a world where deception is always the word of the day. In a mixed world however filled with people of varying degrees, neither is the best. The ideology that stands out is “tit for tat” which, also paradoxically, is the ideology most put down by philosophers and religious groups (an eye for an eye would make the world go blind.

vor 2 Monaten | 30

@markellison2152

One of the most important sayings that I have ever heard is this: cheaters CAN "win", but they CAN'T prosper.

vor 2 Monaten | 180

@Asaelus

This vastly determines on a definition of "winning" [what], but as someone else has commented, working cooperatively is definitely better for long term growth and sharing of resources. (If winning means accumulating more wealth/resources than what you started with)

vor 2 Monaten | 2,000

@NomadMao

Best long term strategy: share at first, then reciprocate the opponent’s previous move.

vor 2 Monaten | 281

@_joanrios

In my experience playing competitive board games, the winning players tend to be those who have great alliances. In contrast, those who decide upon isolation, always end up in a clear disadvantage.

vor 2 Monaten | 4

@Kevbotomy

It depends on what defines "winning" in the minds of the participants. If a participant is selfish, stealing is more likely to lead to "winning" but for a united team, sharing is more important.

vor 2 Monaten | 0

@bluepilkinton-ching3335

"Someone who cheats in Monopoly is going to be richer than those who follow the rules."

vor 2 Monaten (editiert) | 113

@gasparsigma

I guess in theory the individual who steals, unless they get caught and punished, will win. On a population level, sharing because if stealing was accepted it'd not be sustainable.

vor 2 Monaten | 10

@agn4121

This largely depends, if we're talking short term game with few types of resources then stealing because you're directly slowing down the growth of your competitor while increasing your own. Especially for 1v1 games. However, if we're looking at a game with more than 2 players and more than one resource type that continues for a while then it is definitely sharing.

vor 2 Monaten | 1

@alexprokachev

In nature stealing would be winning until there’s nothing left to steal, then other strategies become prevalent (not necessarily sharing). In capitalism 1% who steal will surround themselves with 9% of status quo protectors (military, law enforcement, politicians, managerial class etc) and will aim to eliminate 90% from the fight for resources. Profiteering off of consumption will be sacrificed when full control is taken and 90% are segregated.

vor 2 Monaten | 18

@XbotOfficialYT

But hey, that's just a theory. A game theory.

vor 2 Monaten | 16

@Theboy18403

What I think is in a society where people are sharing the thief who steal and gets away with it (like many politicians) will earn more whereas a society where everyone is a thief will lose to a sharing society

vor 2 Monaten | 10

@lrmackmcbride7498

It depends on definitions not included in the problem including number of iterations snd odds of getting caught as well as value of what is shared or stolen.

vor 2 Monaten | 0

@mitchy98

This was actually solved by a participant of split or steal. Basicly the solution is to convince the other party that you will steal and split afterwards. The other party will have to accept a split, so you can immediately split which is a winning strategy

vor 2 Monaten | 0

@BitcoinMotorist

Because I watch Veritasium I know that being cooperative without being a pushover is the best strategy, also good rules to live by

vor 2 Monaten | 56  

@-astrangerontheinternet6687

Stealing makes a more “successful” individual. Sharing makes a more successful society, ensuring many more successful individuals. So when you let someone screw over the next person, you’re helping them to screw you over next.

vor 2 Monaten | 87

@chrisblazer718

Based on Game theory, people that steal have the best odds of winning. The other person can either choose to share the prize (both of you get 50%) or steal to get 100% of the prize. Of course if both people choose to steal then no one gets a prize. So now let's assume the other person chose to share; then if you chose to share you only get 50% but if you choose to steal then you get 100% of the prize. So you choose to steal to maximize your profit. Let's assume the other person chose to steal. Then no matter if you choose to share or to steal you get no prize money. So you choose to steal anyway. Therefore, your best option no matter what the other person chooses is to steal.

vor 2 Monaten | 1

@Piskit709

Sharing will definitely win but IRL, it's important to note how the person is, as some people wouldn't give value for it. I believe kindness is necessary but things are only for people who you think will give some value back.

vor 2 Monaten | 1